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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jalen Townsell commits to Nevada as a preferred walk on.

https://twitter.com/thejalen06/status/994305176981794816?s=21


Always love when they use the word preferred walk on. Means absolutely nothing.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"We prefer you walk on, since we aren't giving you any money."
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

collegecoach8502 wrote:
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Jalen Townsell commits to Nevada as a preferred walk on.

https://twitter.com/thejalen06/status/994305176981794816?s=21


Always love when they use the word preferred walk on. Means absolutely nothing.


I found Townsell's game intriguing. And, like Bates Jones, I am sure he could have played elsewhere under scholarship. I think in these instances the player preferred to go to the school of his choice. Can't blame him for that.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

collegecoach8502 wrote:
RichmondCat wrote:
Jalen Townsell commits to Nevada as a preferred walk on.

https://twitter.com/thejalen06/status/994305176981794816?s=21


Always love when they use the word preferred walk on. Means absolutely nothing.


I disagree. Certainly Luke Maye was treated differently at Carolina as a "preferred" walk-on. (And I know he ultimately was awarded a scholarship before he enrolled. That's actually a hell of a preference). The expectation for Bates are different because he's a "preferred" walk-on.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BDF wrote:
collegecoach8502 wrote:
RichmondCat wrote:
Jalen Townsell commits to Nevada as a preferred walk on.

https://twitter.com/thejalen06/status/994305176981794816?s=21


Always love when they use the word preferred walk on. Means absolutely nothing.


I disagree. Certainly Luke Maye was treated differently at Carolina as a "preferred" walk-on. (And I know he ultimately was awarded a scholarship before he enrolled. That's actually a hell of a preference). The expectation for Bates are different because he's a "preferred" walk-on.


By definition, a walk on is a kid that shows up unbeknownst to the coaching staff and says he would like to tryout and walk on.

A preferred walk on is a kid that is recruited to a school to come play, but is told that they want that athlete to be a part of the team, but a scholarship is not being offered.

Either way, once a kid is on the roster, the expectations, benefits, etc. are the same as a scholarship athlete, minus the scholarship money. Neither a walk on or a preferred walk on can receive institutional aid based on their participation for that sport.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alot of FCS football programs use "preferred walk-ons" to round out their roster. At W&M, there is a long tradition of preferred walk-ons being awarded scholarships in later years if they earn playing time with their performance. Several of these scholarships have been endowed specifically for former walkons.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

collegecoach8502 wrote:
BDF wrote:
collegecoach8502 wrote:
RichmondCat wrote:
Jalen Townsell commits to Nevada as a preferred walk on.

https://twitter.com/thejalen06/status/994305176981794816?s=21


Always love when they use the word preferred walk on. Means absolutely nothing.


I disagree. Certainly Luke Maye was treated differently at Carolina as a "preferred" walk-on. (And I know he ultimately was awarded a scholarship before he enrolled. That's actually a hell of a preference). The expectation for Bates are different because he's a "preferred" walk-on.


By definition, a walk on is a kid that shows up unbeknownst to the coaching staff and says he would like to tryout and walk on.

A preferred walk on is a kid that is recruited to a school to come play, but is told that they want that athlete to be a part of the team, but a scholarship is not being offered.

Either way, once a kid is on the roster, the expectations, benefits, etc. are the same as a scholarship athlete, minus the scholarship money. Neither a walk on or a preferred walk on can receive institutional aid based on their participation for that sport.
They can still receive need-based state and federal aid, correct?
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waitress wrote:
collegecoach8502 wrote:
BDF wrote:
collegecoach8502 wrote:
RichmondCat wrote:
Jalen Townsell commits to Nevada as a preferred walk on.

https://twitter.com/thejalen06/status/994305176981794816?s=21


Always love when they use the word preferred walk on. Means absolutely nothing.


I disagree. Certainly Luke Maye was treated differently at Carolina as a "preferred" walk-on. (And I know he ultimately was awarded a scholarship before he enrolled. That's actually a hell of a preference). The expectation for Bates are different because he's a "preferred" walk-on.


By definition, a walk on is a kid that shows up unbeknownst to the coaching staff and says he would like to tryout and walk on.

A preferred walk on is a kid that is recruited to a school to come play, but is told that they want that athlete to be a part of the team, but a scholarship is not being offered.

Either way, once a kid is on the roster, the expectations, benefits, etc. are the same as a scholarship athlete, minus the scholarship money. Neither a walk on or a preferred walk on can receive institutional aid based on their participation for that sport.
They can still receive need-based state and federal aid, correct?


Technically if they are being recruited they can't receive institutional aid otherwise they would count against their athletic scholarship count
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't the Ivies give their football players need-based scholarships?
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't the Ivies give their football players need-based scholarships?


technically they can up to the sport counter maximum, after that, not based on athletics....
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Additionally, a preferred can probably be told by a coach that a schollie may/will open up for sophomore year, if said institution is fully committed at the time, no?
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Additionally, a preferred can probably be told by a coach that a schollie may/will open up for sophomore year, if said institution is fully committed at the time, no?


Preferred or not can be told that. It would be a verbal offer that would not have to be honored if they choose not to.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t think the label “preferred” means anything literal but certainly the guys who ARE preferred walk-ons are better than normal walk-ons. Its just like labeling your 4th and 5th string quarterbacks; neither will play but one is more “preferred” than the other.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just speculation and this ship might have sailed, but a certain university received a commitment today to bring their scholarship total to 13. They are also heavily pursuing (and appear to be the front runner) for another P5 transfer.

For those good at math, that's one over the scholarship limit. Maybey this affects the Cats. Maybey not.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Don't the Ivies give their football players need-based scholarships?"

Yes. If they need a QB, RB, etc. . .
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