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catnhat · Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 6397 Location: Asheboro, NC

"Silent Sam" stands in Chapel Hill. I'm told that one of the dedication speeches (circa 1913) was a particularly blatant example of exploiting/trumpeting racial discord.

MrMac · Joined: 10 Jul 2010 Posts: 8254 Location: Greenwood, SC

TOK · Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 1893 Location: Concord, N.C.

rsbarney,

Based on your statement below, I can be certain that you haven't live in the Commonwealth of Virginia. If you were from the Old Dominion, as I am, you would understand the good general's loyalty to the place of his birth.

"I'm not sure I would describe Lee's decision as one based primarily on considerations of slavery but rather a certain, if unfortunate, loyalty to his native state."

Wink

hieron · Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 66

Maybe we could rename New York. Maybe call it New Tubman.

Then the Mets could be the Tubbies.

slowcat95 · Joined: 12 Sep 2016 Posts: 809

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nalotze · Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 703

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41145106/man-dies-from-burns-after-running-into-fire-at-burning-man-festival-in-nevada

MakeIt-TakeIt Cat · Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 2562

Warning about "USA" chant at high school games and rallies:

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/09/14/high-school-usa-chant/

slowcat95 · Joined: 12 Sep 2016 Posts: 809

I find it embarrassing when D Block does that at Davidson games. It feels insensitive, especially given how much our team and school benefit from student athletes from other countries. But I wouldn't seek to ban it anymore than I would seek to enforce standing for the national anthem.
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MakeIt-TakeIt Cat · Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 2562

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Rudy2011 · Joined: 17 Jul 2012 Posts: 572 Location: Baltimore, MD

MakeIt-TakeIt Cat · Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 2562

More evidence ...
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kevin mcmahon · Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 4609 Location: Hickory, NC

GoalCat · Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 898

It feels silly to constantly try to find the worst in things, or to assume that others will. If my memory of regular attenders' comments is correct, D Block historically has done a fine job of celebrating the international backgrounds of our many basketball players from abroad. Assuming that is correct, why would we think that chanting of "USA" is devaluing of the contributions of our international players? Were there instances where that chant was "directed" at an opposing non-American player?

Similarly, it would seem silly to me to discourage the waving of the Iceland, Finland, Nigeria, Turkey, Canada, etc etc flags, on the basis that it might appear to be devaluing the contributions of our native born players.

We always can find a possible "worst" in things. We become a better community when we encourage finding the "best" in those same things. There will be obvious exceptions to that comment, as in instances where there is not much legitimate "best" to be found. Still, this seems like a silly example that is being debated by some, and devalues the arguments surrounding other more legitimate discussions.