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Steve Rodgers



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Airball50 wrote:
Hue and cry over "Nazi." Crickets about "Confederate." Disturbing.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My older brother played football for the Morehead High Black Panthers in the 60s. By the time I came along, I played for the Morehead High Fighting Panthers.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Big difference between denying historical fact and celebrating historical facts that should not be celebrated.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Bliss wrote:
My older brother played football for the Morehead High Black Panthers in the 60s. By the time I came along, I played for the Morehead High Fighting Panthers.


Playing football for Winston-Salem's R. J. Reynolds High School in the late 1950s, we were the (all-white) Reynolds Black Demons. When the name changed I don't remember, but now the school's sports teams are the Reynolds Demons, and have been for many years. Go Demons!

Reynolds' football coach in the late 1950s and early 1960s was a Davidson grad, Shirley "Red" Wilson (Class of 1950), who later was head coach at Elon and Duke. Red Wilson was inducted into Davidson's Hall of Fame in 1991. Several of his Reynolds players went on to play football for Davidson, including Dick Voorhees, Britt Smith, Lyle Blalock and Steve Heckard, who also is in our HOF. I went on to become an all-star flickerball player for the Betas!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndroCat wrote:
Airbal50 wrote:
Substitute "Nazi" for "Confederate" and tell me if you would feel the same?


MakeIt-TakeIt Cat wrote:
The dreaded "Nazi" word. Is the KKK next? Jim Crow? Eugenics?

If we hurry we can use our stupid thread to solve these issues today ... once and for all!


And there it is! Godwin's Law again proves true!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law


Thanks, this is hilarious!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Bliss wrote:
My older brother played football for the Morehead High Black Panthers in the 60s. By the time I came along, I played for the Morehead High Fighting Panthers.


Sadly, they probably aren't even "Fighting" Panthers now.

Last season I saw W&M play football at Elon. It would have be the Indians at the Fighting Christians, but alas, now it is the Tribe at the Phoenix.

Frankly, the only thing that offends me are the folks who are so easily offended! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevelee wrote:
dorp wrote:
stevelee wrote:
Political Correctness strikes again. http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/08/vanderbilt-confederate-hall/495941/

There's a great market these days for the suddenly offended.


I'm already dreading December when Starbucks will persecute me again for my religion.


Take solace that you will suffer for only 1 more season and look forward to The Donald's great emancipation of American Christianity, when we can proclaim "Free at last, free at last, to say 'Merry Christmas' and enjoy a hot beverage from a cup adorned with a wreath or even a Wise Man"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or at lest a return of the snowflake on the cup.

We can fly our flag again, and call a spade a spade.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steveclark63 wrote:
Dr. Bliss wrote:
My older brother played football for the Morehead High Black Panthers in the 60s. By the time I came along, I played for the Morehead High Fighting Panthers.


Playing football for Winston-Salem's R. J. Reynolds High School in the late 1950s, we were the (all-white) Reynolds Black Demons. When the name changed I don't remember, but now the school's sports teams are the Reynolds Demons, and have been for many years. Go Demons!

Reynolds' football coach in the late 1950s and early 1960s was a Davidson grad, Shirley "Red" Wilson (Class of 1950), who later was head coach at Elon and Duke. Red Wilson was inducted into Davidson's Hall of Fame in 1991. Several of his Reynolds players went on to play football for Davidson, including Dick Voorhees, Britt Smith, Lyle Blalock and Steve Heckard, who also is in our HOF. I went on to become an all-star flickerball player for the Betas!!




And also a very good sports editor and writer for the Davidsonian, which helped lead to a very successful career with the Richmond newspapers.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOK wrote:
Dr. Bliss wrote:
My older brother played football for the Morehead High Black Panthers in the 60s. By the time I came along, I played for the Morehead High Fighting Panthers.


Sadly, they probably aren't even "Fighting" Panthers now.

Last season I saw W&M play football at Elon. It would have be the Indians at the Fighting Christians, but alas, now it is the Tribe at the Phoenix.

Frankly, the only thing that offends me are the folks who are so easily offended! Wink


Did the Fighting Christians ever play against Lions? Headlines write themselves, even just posting the score such as Lions 14, Christians 0.

Many years at our Annual Conference (our equivalent of a diocesan assembly), we would pass resolutions decrying naming things after Native Americans, at our gathering at . . . Lake Junaluska. I'm not making this up.

Personally, I'm offended by the Vikings and the Celtics.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the Fighting Irish and the damn drunk belligerent leprechaun that makes me look for a safe space.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2006943/two-chinese-women-collapse-street-after-arguing-non-stop-eight

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Two women in Northwest China fainted from exhaustion after quarrelling with each other for eight hours without eating or drinking, according to local media reports.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevelee wrote:
TOK wrote:
Dr. Bliss wrote:
My older brother played football for the Morehead High Black Panthers in the 60s. By the time I came along, I played for the Morehead High Fighting Panthers.


Sadly, they probably aren't even "Fighting" Panthers now.

Last season I saw W&M play football at Elon. It would have be the Indians at the Fighting Christians, but alas, now it is the Tribe at the Phoenix.

Frankly, the only thing that offends me are the folks who are so easily offended! Wink


Did the Fighting Christians ever play against Lions? Headlines write themselves, even just posting the score such as Lions 14, Christians 0.


Just north of Clemson, in Central, SC, reside the Daniel HS Lions. I am surprised that this team name has survived, for a number of reasons.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, Geez, here we go again. We gotta give this a rest. What will be next? Removing Thomas Jefferson from the currency and renaming the Jefferson Memorial because he was a slaveholder?


There is a very important difference. The Jefferson memorial was not created to specifically memorialize how fervently he was willing to fight to keep his slaves.

Sorry, I don't mean to drudge up arguments that are dead. But, this is a very important nuance in my mind and I haven't been on the site in a while.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The majority of Confederate soldiers who were killed in the war owned no slaves and their families owned no slaves. In the Confederate states various accounts indicate about 20-30% (average) of families owned slaves. It's the old story of a war started by rich men and politicians from a particular party and fought by poor young men and boys. It has never been too hard to gin up hatred against Damn Yankees and it wasn't in 1860. And institution of a draft in the Confederacy really boosted "volunteerism" to the cause.

If we don't want to honor any of these soldiers at least we should get the history correct as to who they were. Most of the Confederate men and boys were not fighting with the idea keeping their slaves or their family's slaves.

If we want to show our hatred of slavery why dredge up history from 150 years ago? There are many times more people enslaved around the world today than there were in 1860 ... millions and millions more. I don't see a massive abolitionist fervor among our PC/globalist universities and colleges.
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