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Post by i77cat » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:40 pm

Spicy deluxe (grilled or fried) is a good sammich.

Now back to stupid: http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19 ... -nba-crown

Cavs have the second-best chance? No way. GS, followed by Spurs, followed by Rockets. All three are comfortably better than the East champion. I just need Draymond to keep his boot out of the opponent's crotch. And for the Warriors to avoid big injuries.
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Post by catnhat » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:47 pm

A few years back Wichita State played in Greensboro in the first two rounds. Their cheerleaders were very excited when they won game one because, in part, they would be able to eat at Bojangles for two more days- I heard it with my own ears.

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Post by i77cat » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:00 pm

Smart cheerleaders. Bo won't let you down.
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Post by catnhat » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:06 pm

Money bet on Cleveland has at least one BIG plus. The Cavs don't have to play GS or SA or Houston to reach the finals. At most they must beat one of the best four teams to win it all. SA or Houston will have to beat 3 of the 4. GS will have to beat 2.

Assuming Cleveland has an 80% chance of reaching the Eastern finals, and an 80% chance of winning the East if they reach the finals, and only a 40% chance of winning the title against one of the West's big 3, they have slightly better than a 25% chance to win it all.

Assuming SA and Houston have a 49% chance of reaching the Western finals, and a 40% chance of beating the Dubs in the West, and a 60% chance of winning the finals if they get there, they each have about a 12% chance to win it all.

Assuming GS has at least a 90% chance of getting to the Western finals and a 60% chance of winning the West if they reach the finals and a 60% chance of winning the finals if they get there, they have about a 33% chance to win it all.

Obviously one can quarrel with the assumptions used, but use any reasonable numbers you want and Cleveland has a better chance to win it all than do the western underdogs.

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Post by i77cat » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:02 am

You and I make very different assumptions about chances to reach and advance. My math has Cleveland with about the same chance as Boston to be champs, a slightly lesser chance than Houston to win it all, about half the chance that San Antonio has, and way less than Golden State's chance. Vegas says Golden State is 1-2, Cleveland is 7-2, and San Antonio is 9-1. I Don't see Cleveland with a better chance than San Antonio. And I don't see Boston and Houston at 20-1.
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Post by Waitress » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:25 pm

i77cat wrote:I just need Draymond to keep his boot out of the opponent's crotch. And for the Warriors to avoid big injuries.
Might be nice if he didn't scream, "...AND ONE!!!!" so much.
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Post by i77cat » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:43 pm

Draymond gonna Draymond.
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Post by catnhat » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:45 pm

i77- I had Cleveland with a 64% chance of coming out of the East. Drop that to 50% and I still have them with a 20% chance of winning it all.

If you believe either SA or Houston has a 33% chance of winning the West (which seems high to me), and a 60% chance of winning it all if they reach the finals, then they each have less than a 20% chance to win it all.

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Post by i77cat » Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:56 pm

There is where our assumptions differ. I have Cleveland with a 45% of coming out of the East. Not too different from you. But you have them with a 40% chance of beating the West champion. I have them at 20%. They weren't just bad at the end of the season. They were horrible. This looks like GS or SA to me.
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Post by MLC67 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:10 am

Early in the Weekend, I watched 30 for 30 episode: "One and Not Done" about that Judas of college bb, JC. Give the devil his due, no hypocrite he - Calapari is absolutely honest about his goals, methods and ethics - he recruits poor kids he believes can play one year at Kentucky and thereafter make big bucks in the NBA. With this very select student, Coach Cal teaches in the one, exclusive school room that he deems relevant - the practice court. Cal doesn't want any time wasted learning anything beyond boxing out on rebounds or getting squared up on ball hander defense. Cal is not indifferent to "book learnin", he is actively hostile to it.

Classy show, which completely endorses JC as one of the best ever to serve the underclasses of ghetto America, finishes up its canonization of Coach Cal with his Induction Service at the College BB Hall of Fame.

Almost jumped out of my den recliner before saying a prayer of thankfulness; I'm with Lefty yet again - as neither of us would want to belong to any club that admits John Calapari to its membership. It's Easter, so I am seeking some forgiveness in my heart - nah, Long Live the Old Left Hander, who stands alone in defiance of the false prophets.
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Post by MrMac » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:39 pm

i77cat wrote:Spicy deluxe (grilled or fried) is a good sammich.
Yup. Tried one for the first time this past weekend. Spicy good.

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Post by stan » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:02 pm

catnhat wrote:Money bet on Cleveland has at least one BIG plus. The Cavs don't have to play GS or SA or Houston to reach the finals. At most they must beat one of the best four teams to win it all. SA or Houston will have to beat 3 of the 4. GS will have to beat 2.

Assuming Cleveland has an 80% chance of reaching the Eastern finals, and an 80% chance of winning the East if they reach the finals, and only a 40% chance of winning the title against one of the West's big 3, they have slightly better than a 25% chance to win it all.

Assuming SA and Houston have a 49% chance of reaching the Western finals, and a 40% chance of beating the Dubs in the West, and a 60% chance of winning the finals if they get there, they each have about a 12% chance to win it all.

Assuming GS has at least a 90% chance of getting to the Western finals and a 60% chance of winning the West if they reach the finals and a 60% chance of winning the finals if they get there, they have about a 33% chance to win it all.

Obviously one can quarrel with the assumptions used, but use any reasonable numbers you want and Cleveland has a better chance to win it all than do the western underdogs.
Research shows that people are really poor judges of risk. Experience too. Upsets happen. Bettors generally fail to appreciate the impact of a number of contests in decreasing the odds of a championship.

A 90% chance to win is considered equal to a sure thing. Heck, 80% is for most fans. But an 80% favorite in each of 4 straight series is only a 41% chance to be champ.

Hey, we could do a MATH thread on it. Lorenz and the butterfly effect. I'm sure it would be chaotic. :wink:
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Post by stan » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:10 pm

Wonder what the odds were on Davidson closing the regular season in 2015 with 9 straight wins.....
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Post by Dr. Bliss » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:38 pm

stan wrote: Research shows that people are really poor judges of risk.
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Post by Airball50 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:16 pm

Read "White Trash" and see if you would post this again.

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