Pay for Play & Lawsuits

[85Wildcatsky]

NIL may become a mute subject. Events are changing rapidly.


NCAA settlement

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ay-players


If this is implimented, I am done. I have a tough time with the borish attitudes of current players with the portal. If players are salaried I firmly believe that is the end of the student athlete. (If not there already) I can't see schools like Davidson joining this crazy model. Schools will have to set up a whole different department to litigate and manage all of this. Taxes, healthcare, salaries, pensions, etc. At some schools the greatest number of employees could be the athletes.

[stevelee]

The settlement in effect has other conferences subsidizing the power conferences.

[Waitress]

NIL may become a mute subject. Events are changing rapidly.


NCAA settlement

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ay-players


If this is implimented, I am done. I have a tough time with the borish attitudes of current players with the portal. If players are salaried I firmly believe that is the end of the student athlete. (If not there already) I can't see schools like Davidson joining this crazy model. Schools will have to set up a whole different department to litigate and manage all of this. Taxes, healthcare, salaries, pensions, etc. At some schools the greatest number of employees could be the athletes.

You rang?

[GoCats]

The settlement in effect has other conferences subsidizing the power conferences.

+1

[MrMac]

It is only a matter of time before star academic recruits want to get their piece of this pie. Also, Band members, club leaders, artists, mathematicians, and other gifted and committed individuals in service to these universities should be lining up to receive financial inducements over and above scholarship costs to attend these schools.

The schools will simply raise tuition and the government will be forced to increase grants and loans. We will all pay much more to support this new reality.

[catnhat]

Non-athletes have never been prohibited from receiving pay while in school. Whether a school will pay over and above a scholarship for a cellist or thespian is up to the school. Until these students generate considerable revenue the market probably won’t support recruiting with pay.

[stevelee]

I made work-study money turning pages for Mr. Welsh when he played for Vespers. I also work one evening a week in the music library. Neither disqualified me as an amateur musician.

[slowcat95]

It is only a matter of time before star academic recruits want to get their piece of this pie. Also, Band members, club leaders, artists, mathematicians, and other gifted and committed individuals in service to these universities should be lining up to receive financial inducements over and above scholarship costs to attend these schools.

The schools will simply raise tuition and the government will be forced to increase grants and loans. We will all pay much more to support this new reality.

Grad schools do this already for promising applicants.

[85Wildcatsky]

It is only a matter of time before star academic recruits want to get their piece of this pie. Also, Band members, club leaders, artists, mathematicians, and other gifted and committed individuals in service to these universities should be lining up to receive financial inducements over and above scholarship costs to attend these schools.

The schools will simply raise tuition and the government will be forced to increase grants and loans. We will all pay much more to support this new reality.

Engineering could be next. My son is a PHD engineer who graduated from Michigan. My son, his peers, and I were having this discussion. They are severely limited on royalties from any of their patents and research. Many schools make big bucks from these breakthroughs. I could see them all asking for more if the schools continue to waste all this money on athletics.

[cat44]

It is only a matter of time before star academic recruits want to get their piece of this pie. Also, Band members, club leaders, artists, mathematicians, and other gifted and committed individuals in service to these universities should be lining up to receive financial inducements over and above scholarship costs to attend these schools.

The schools will simply raise tuition and the government will be forced to increase grants and loans. We will all pay much more to support this new reality.

Grad schools do this already for promising applicants.

My oldest daughter was the recipient of this when she got her masters and Ph D in nursing at UC San Francisco. I did her taxes her first year and with grants and working at a clinic her agi was over $100,000 her first year. She married and her husband did their returns after that. But I will attest that graduate schools will pay significantly for students they want.

[Ursa Midmajor]

Let the lawyering begin:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/558218 ... ed_article

If behind a paywall, an FCS school raising their hand, “You’re screwing us.”

[Acorn]

Let the lawyering begin:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/558218 ... ed_article

If behind a paywall, an FBS school raising their hand, “You’re screwing us.”

So Houston Christian’s athletics have always lived off the largesse generated by athletes elsewhere and now that the distribution is changing (principally to allow the athletes most responsible for generating those revenues to collect something approaching their fair share of them) they’re getting screwed?

[JerseyLawyer]

The threat is more existential. An alum or booster (like some of us) loves basketball and donates to the Athletic Foundation, which benefits all sports. Since all we care about is hoops, we now send all of our money to the NIL Collective. So money for all the other sports dry up - and they go away.

Only the NCAA could screw things up this badly

[Acorn]

If we don’t care about the other sports, then why should they be subsidized by the athletes playing the sports we do care about?

I don’t see a problem with a shift toward an Ivy-League-like model (i.e., no athletic scholarships—let alone pay for play) for non-revenue sports. I get that the status quo has been a great deal for the non-revenue-sport student-athletes and their families. But what do the institutions and the other students get out of it? And it has been possible because the revenue-sport athletes who played an important part in generating those significant revenues were compensated with athletic scholarships only.

If non-revenue sports become something more like club sports, so what?

[stevelee]

If we don’t care about the other sports, then why should they be subsidized by the athletes playing the sports we do care about?

I don’t see a problem with a shift toward an Ivy-League-like model (i.e., no athletic scholarships—let alone pay for play) for non-revenue sports. I get that the status quo has been a great deal for the non-revenue-sport student-athletes and their families. But what do the institutions and the other students get out of it? And it has been possible because the revenue-sport athletes who played an important part in generating those significant revenues were compensated with athletic scholarships only.

If non-revenue sports become something more like club sports, so what?

Do even the "revenue" sports at Davidson actually make money? I'd be surprised if they do.