In Game: at Richmond

[otherwildcat]

Quinn went over Kochera's back and hit him in the back of the head with his elbow on that rebound attempt. Refs called out of bounds off Kochera. Announcers showed a replay of Quinn's great play that clearly showed that he fouled Kochera, and they had nothing further to say.

Exactly, and then they call over the back on Brizzi when he stole the ball from Quinn.
Those two plays could have changed the game, regardless of the poor shooting

[Owfitzpatrick]

Grant goes brain dead. Again.

No excuse. Can't make that play. Just can't.

The play was legal so not sure why you “can’t make that play.” Hand to hand contact is legal. King kicked his leg out, which is an offensive foul, if anything is to be called. And if Grant hadn’t closed out hard and king makes the shot, you’d have been the first to call out the “lack of effort” or “have to be in the shooter’s face.”

So what is the play he can make other than to not get called for a foul he didn’t commit?

It's just typical Stan. Come on the messageboard for the season, be super negative about every play and pretend he is super coach. We see it every year.

Like it or not, Stan is right. Bad play by Grant, great play by King. It was a foul.

First off, whether it was or wasn’t a foul is not a cut and dry situation. The timing of the ref putting his hand up indicates that it was not from the hand contact but the body. Arguably, Grant moved into King’s landing zone, but King clearly kicked his leg out to initiate contact which has been an offensive foul for multiple years and a point of emphasis recently, so at best this was a subjective call that didn’t go our way.

As for Stan being right, that’s an assertion without any evidence. Stan states that “Grant goes brain dead again.” Grant made a hard close against Richmond’s best shooter who is taking a shot to win the game. He didn’t run through him, or clearly bump him. Thats not going brain dead. I ask again, what would you have him do differently that doesn’t involve the refs making a different call or I guess his feet landing 6 inches away from where they did?

[citycat]

Place is almost full

The arena was packed. The rows of seats are closer together than Belk, so it is uncomfortable when it’s this full.

There were very few Davidson fans. We gathered up 6 from northeastern NC and Richmond, but there were only 2 others in our section.

Richmond was honoring their teams from 1984 and 2004.

Davidson could do something similar for the 2015 team next year.

We could honor the 1966, 1986, and 2006 teams 2 years from now.

[mccabemi]

Yes, by the rule it was an offensive foul or incidental contact https://x.com/franfraschilla/status/161 ... 07424?s=46

[Waitress]

Yes, by the rule it was an offensive foul or incidental contact https://x.com/franfraschilla/status/161 ... 07424?s=46

Replays of King's leg kick-out look like obviously, blatantly intentional contact.
What is the rule on the shooter's follow-through making contact with the defender's hand?

[cat44]

I just watched a replay of the second half. The game was gift wrapped for the Spiders.

[bagelcat]

A lot of it coming from the same official (though not the one who called the last foul on Grant).

[Sir Walter Cat]

Spiders have dodged bullets both games against us. I almost *want* to face them in the tournament.

[MikeMaloy15]

I absolutely want to play them. It would mean we'd already won a game or two and we'd be playing them instead of Dayton. Toss in the revenge thing and what's not to like?

[Steve Rodgers]

I feel bad for this years team. Lot of effort but not much in results. A statistical observation: We are 102 in offensive efficiency ratings but 187 in defensive efficiency. Eyeball test indicates our problem is offense, stats say otherwise- though we’re not good at either one.

[quickcat]

I feel bad for this years team. Lot of effort but not much in results. A statistical observation: We are 102 in offensive efficiency ratings but 187 in defensive efficiency. Eyeball test indicates our problem is offense, stats say otherwise- though we’re not good at either one.

What efficiency ratings are you looking at? In Kenpom the Cats are 166 in offensive efficiency and 61 in defense, for a net of 106. Massey has our offensive rating at 164 and defense at 56, net power ranking at 100, with rating (which factors in w/l) at 116. To me, it seems like the team's heart and fight is translating to the defensive end, but their lackluster offense keeps them from getting over the hump and winning more games. That is why the Cats are 11th in the conference standings but 8th in kenpom rating.

BTW - the Cats have only had kenpom defensive efficiency ratings anywhere near this year's 61 in 2002 and 2007-2009, the Curry years. 2017 and 2019 ratings were in the 90s - the only other times we were below 100.

[Steve Rodgers]

I don't know how Kenpom ratings work. I looked at traditional OER and DER, which is a points per possession metric. I'd be interested to know how Kenpom is calculated.

[stevelee]

I feel bad for this years team. Lot of effort but not much in results. A statistical observation: We are 102 in offensive efficiency ratings but 187 in defensive efficiency. Eyeball test indicates our problem is offense, stats say otherwise- though we’re not good at either one.

What efficiency ratings are you looking at? In Kenpom the Cats are 166 in offensive efficiency and 61 in defense, for a net of 106. Massey has our offensive rating at 164 and defense at 56, net power ranking at 100, with rating (which factors in w/l) at 116. To me, it seems like the team's heart and fight is translating to the defensive end, but their lackluster offense keeps them from getting over the hump and winning more games. That is why the Cats are 11th in the conference standings but 8th in kenpom rating.

BTW - the Cats have only had kenpom defensive efficiency ratings anywhere near this year's 61 in 2002 and 2007-2009, the Curry years. 2017 and 2019 ratings were in the 90s - the only other times we were below 100.

Isn’t our offensive strategy based a lot on the assumption that we will be a 3-point threat? Our defense looks plenty good to me, good enough that we would win a lot of games if we could shoot.

[Steve Rodgers]

Yeah I agree, my eyes tell me the problem is offense but the stats I found say otherwise. Maybe Kenpom is a better statistical tool than traditional OER. Certainly Kenpom confirms what our eyes are seeing.

[ScootCat]

The coaches have done an excellent job upgrading our defensive effort this year. Very impressive.