This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by DC69Wildcat » Sun Aug 18, 2024 11:40 am

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The comment he made about "the best defense we have had in 20 years", was interesting. I would like to know if this statement was based on more than one metric. If it was based solely on points per game allowed, I would challenge it since pace of play has slowed for the Cats. It will, as always, be fun to see how the players have developed since last season. Go Cats!
Sander and MPG were 2 of the best defenders we have ever had, and Curry, Lovedale, and Richards were excellent complementary pieces of the 2007-2008 defense. Our defense during the second half against Gonzaga and Georgetown, and the entire game against Wisconsin and Kansas, was the best I have seen.
"We were in the center ring the whole night,'' longtime Davidson coach Bob McKillop said. ''We were not on the ropes. We were not on the mat. We were in the center ring slugging away, and we just ran out of time.''

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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by BDL » Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:09 pm

They probably got the defensive comment from KenPom. According to KenPom last year's defense (86th in the nation) was the highest ranked defense we've had since the 2008/09 team (which was 26th in the nation).

For those interested, according to KenPom our defense was ranked 66th, 27th, and 26th over Steph's 3 seasons (in order).

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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by Dr. Bliss » Sun Aug 18, 2024 8:01 pm

I guess Matt's comment falls into the realm of either wishful thinking or outright exaggeration. I don't think it rises to the level of Honor Code violation.
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Post by stevelee » Sun Aug 18, 2024 8:53 pm

I especially enjoyed hearing the comments about Reed Bailey.

It was interesting to hear, though not surprising, that Connor had planned all along to be here for three years. From our brief conversations he seems to me to be the happiest person to be at Davidson that I know (not counting perhaps a few retired guys who chose to live here in town).
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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by stevelee » Sun Aug 18, 2024 8:57 pm

Dr. Bliss wrote:
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I guess Matt's comment falls into the realm of either wishful thinking or outright exaggeration. I don't think it rises to the level of Honor Code violation.
I found his comments plausible, certainly reinforced by what I saw this summer. At worst I’d say they were aspirational.

They wouldn’t even seem that far off if you watched just the first 35 minutes of our games last season.
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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by DC69Wildcat » Mon Aug 19, 2024 12:30 am

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...he seems to me to be the happiest person to be at Davidson that I know (not counting perhaps a few retired guys who chose to live here in town).
I need to introduce you to Professor Benbow.
"We were in the center ring the whole night,'' longtime Davidson coach Bob McKillop said. ''We were not on the ropes. We were not on the mat. We were in the center ring slugging away, and we just ran out of time.''

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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by stevelee » Mon Aug 19, 2024 11:05 am

DC69Wildcat wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 12:30 am
stevelee wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 8:53 pm
...he seems to me to be the happiest person to be at Davidson that I know (not counting perhaps a few retired guys who chose to live here in town).
I need to introduce you to Professor Benbow.
Glad Pete is in the running for this apparently broad honor.

I once disagreed with Jack Gibbs over whether he or we were the happiest for him to come back here.

Twenty years ago when I built a house in Davidson, I thought I’d enjoy spending my final years living in Davidson. I was wrong. I had vastly underestimated the experience.

Still, I think Connor has one of the biggest smiles I have ever seen, when the topic comes up.
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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by GoCats » Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:57 pm

TOK wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:44 am

The comment he made about "the best defense we have had in 20 years", was interesting. I would like to know if this statement was based on more than one metric. If it was based solely on points per game allowed, I would challenge it since pace of play has slowed for the Cats. It will, as always, be fun to see how the players have developed since last season. Go Cats!
I thought last year's team was the best defensive team we had since 2008. Our guard play was very athletic and played with strength. Unfortunately, our offense was not great and our shooting even worse. When Skogman when out, the offense was much weaker. It did give others needed experience. I never thought the sky was falling last year, we were in almost every game and lost more close games than any Davidson team I can remember. Real gut check. I think the players handled it better than the fans.
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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by wildforthecats » Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:27 am

GoCats wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:57 pm
TOK wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:44 am

The comment he made about "the best defense we have had in 20 years", was interesting. I would like to know if this statement was based on more than one metric. If it was based solely on points per game allowed, I would challenge it since pace of play has slowed for the Cats. It will, as always, be fun to see how the players have developed since last season. Go Cats!
I thought last year's team was the best defensive team we had since 2008. Our guard play was very athletic and played with strength. Unfortunately, our offense was not great and our shooting even worse. When Skogman when out, the offense was much weaker. It did give others needed experience. I never thought the sky was falling last year, we were in almost every game and lost more close games than any Davidson team I can remember. Real gut check. I think the players handled it better than the fans.
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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by MrMac » Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:22 am

Grant's graduation is a great loss for our defense. He had the skills and the attitude of a ++defender. Hopefully, Hunter and others will take up his role on this year's team.

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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by i77cat » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:40 am

Our coaches had the team prepared almost every game. Players came out and played great defense for almost the entire game. Too often, we didn't get the big stops late. When we did, we couldn't score. I don't think preparation, desire, or intensity were lacking. I expect the same to be true this year. If we can shoot just a bit better, we'll win a few more games.
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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by stevelee » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:21 am

i77cat wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:40 am
Our coaches had the team prepared almost every game. Players came out and played great defense for almost the entire game. Too often, we didn't get the big stops late. When we did, we couldn't score. I don't think preparation, desire, or intensity were lacking. I expect the same to be true this year. If we can shoot just a bit better, we'll win a few more games.
We lost ten games by five points or less. If we make two more shots, we could win at least half of those.
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Re: This Season - A Tale of Shooting (or Lack Thereof)

Post by wildforthecats » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:37 am

stevelee wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:21 am
i77cat wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:40 am
Our coaches had the team prepared almost every game. Players came out and played great defense for almost the entire game. Too often, we didn't get the big stops late. When we did, we couldn't score. I don't think preparation, desire, or intensity were lacking. I expect the same to be true this year. If we can shoot just a bit better, we'll win a few more games.
We lost ten games by five points or less. If we make two more shots, we could win at least half of those.
Hopefully, it will be like 85-86 after 84-85.

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