Clunie Email re NIL
Re: Clunie Email re NIL
Most lawyers are broke. The ones you know are making good money.
NIL should have nothing to do with the market value of the player to the school. Does anybody really think that any one of our players generates over $70,000 in additional ticket sales?
NIL, if an honest endeavor, would base amounts on the market value of the use of the name, image, and/or likeness of the player to the company paying the money.
NIL should have nothing to do with the market value of the player to the school. Does anybody really think that any one of our players generates over $70,000 in additional ticket sales?
NIL, if an honest endeavor, would base amounts on the market value of the use of the name, image, and/or likeness of the player to the company paying the money.
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Re: Clunie Email re NIL
Market value is what people are willing to pay.
If our players can find people willing to pay them more than $70k to play ball, then their market value is more than $70k.
Capping their 'wages' at the cost of attendance is anti-capitalist.
If we don't like the way capitalism allows some people to be paid extraordinary sums of money, let's start by capping the wages of CEOs, hedge fund managers, and some laywers. Not the hoopsters who put a heck of a lot more effort into their work and bring us joy in the process.
If our players can find people willing to pay them more than $70k to play ball, then their market value is more than $70k.
Capping their 'wages' at the cost of attendance is anti-capitalist.
If we don't like the way capitalism allows some people to be paid extraordinary sums of money, let's start by capping the wages of CEOs, hedge fund managers, and some laywers. Not the hoopsters who put a heck of a lot more effort into their work and bring us joy in the process.
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Re: Clunie Email re NIL
OK, but you are talking about something different from NIL.slowcat95 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:22 amMarket value is what people are willing to pay.
If our players can find people willing to pay them more than $70k to play ball, then their market value is more than $70k.
Capping their 'wages' at the cost of attendance is anti-capitalist.
If we don't like the way capitalism allows some people to be paid extraordinary sums of money, let's start by capping the wages of CEOs, hedge fund managers, and some laywers. Not the hoopsters who put a heck of a lot more effort into their work and bring us joy in the process.
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Re: Clunie Email re NIL
A number of comments here have asserted that our lads deserve to be compensated at the market value for their “work”. I would maintain that this analysis is flawed in that NIL awards players for the use of their Name, etc in commercial advertising. This key difference recognizes that the lads are “playing” a student recreational game; they are not employees being paid for their work done for the benefit of their non-employer Davidson College.Any description of our players being paid for there work must await direct payments from the College, an eventuality that I pray never occurs.
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Re: Clunie Email re NIL
Ironically, the preservation of competitiveness and long term health of programs may require an employee approach. Any attempt to limit kids' ability to transfer is going to run into court challenges and lose on antitrust grounds. Lose big. Lose quickly.MLC67 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:56 pmA number of comments here have asserted that our lads deserve to be compensated at the market value for their “work”. I would maintain that this analysis is flawed in that NIL awards players for the use of their Name, etc in commercial advertising. This key difference recognizes that the lads are “playing” a student recreational game; they are not employees being paid for their work done for the benefit of their non-employer Davidson College.Any description of our players being paid for there work must await direct payments from the College, an eventuality that I pray never occurs.
If, however, these are employees who can join together and speak through collective bargaining, they can agree to restrictions on movement and competitiveness/state of the game restrictions.
It may not be the solution you want, but it's the one that would stand the best chance of working.
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"When Davidson’s offense is clicking, the reads upon reads of its motion offense unfold like some masterful concerto." - SLAM Magazine. 10/27/15
Re: Clunie Email re NIL
"Here’s what is the elephant in the room. Travis had a bag before. Now everyone has a bag. The Travis Ford recruiting prowess was greatly exaggerated."---SLU fan explaining how NIL took away Ford's recruiting edge
Re: Clunie Email re NIL
"Here’s what is the elephant in the room. Travis had a bag before. Now everyone has a bag. The Travis Ford recruiting prowess was greatly exaggerated."---SLU fan explaining how NIL took away Ford's recruiting edge
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Re: Clunie Email re NIL
Largest revenue stream for NCAA is March Madness (NCAA hardly gets any football money). I suspect all reserves are pretty much a result of the March Madness TV contracts. So basketball (primarily men’s basketball before Caitlinapooza) will probably overly subsidize the settlement attributable to
football and other sports. I am assuming the colleges themselves won’t pony up but the money will come out of the NCAA coffers.
They are gonna need a bigger boat in the future. End game will be a streaming service or two paying big bucks for March. Paramount boss just canned. Too much Yellowstone and not enough sports and other diversification of streaming was forcing a merger. They will be at the bidding table for sports going forward.
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Re: Clunie Email re NIL
There was no real insight into the numbers regarding our NIL efforts on last night’s Zoom call with the AD and coaches. Did I miss something?
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No there wasn’t any hard numbers thrown around. What I am most surprised was Matt mentioning that the staff avoids NIL conversations until it is brought up by the player or their families. If we have a collective just for basketball, I figured that would be part of the regular pitch about the support you would have as a Davidson basketball scholar athlete. Just a very very surprising response.
Re: Clunie Email re NIL
I think internationals, here on student visas, have substantial restrictions on NIL participation. Does anybody know the specifics?
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Re: Clunie Email re NIL
When you have $7 million like Arkansas, you bring it up and make it about NIL money. When you basically have nothing, you don't mention it unless the recruit asks the question.CatsRom wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 1:35 pmNo there wasn’t any hard numbers thrown around. What I am most surprised was Matt mentioning that the staff avoids NIL conversations until it is brought up by the player or their families. If we have a collective just for basketball, I figured that would be part of the regular pitch about the support you would have as a Davidson basketball scholar athlete. Just a very very surprising response.
Re: Clunie Email re NIL
The schools we are competing against for the players we want to get to compete in the A10 will absolutely be mentioning NIL to recruits. Seems like you would want to clear the air about those NIL opportunities at Davidson rather than the prospect assuming it doesn't exsist.TiredCat88 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 2:28 pmWhen you have $7 million like Arkansas, you bring it up and make it about NIL money. When you basically have nothing, you don't mention it unless the recruit asks the question.CatsRom wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 1:35 pmNo there wasn’t any hard numbers thrown around. What I am most surprised was Matt mentioning that the staff avoids NIL conversations until it is brought up by the player or their families. If we have a collective just for basketball, I figured that would be part of the regular pitch about the support you would have as a Davidson basketball scholar athlete. Just a very very surprising response.