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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:19 pm    Post subject: Transfers of interest Reply with quote

Last year we had David Caraher of Chapel Hill on the list of HS players we were interested in. I assume we backed off since he went to Houston Baptist. He put up 16+ ppg and 7+ rpg there. Now he's headed to St. John's.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richmond fans say Buckingham has asked for his release.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i77cat wrote:
Richmond fans say Buckingham has asked for his release.


Kind of a drag?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fleetwood Mac ejected Buckingham recently.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I hear he's never goin' back again.

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https://twitter.com/marcdavissports/status/986669802939928584
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChantillyCat wrote:
And I hear he's never goin' back again.

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https://twitter.com/marcdavissports/status/986669802939928584


And now a flashover under Mooney's already warm seat.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChantillyCat wrote:
And I hear he's never goin' back again.

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https://twitter.com/marcdavissports/status/986669802939928584


Lets not get swept by them again.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've lost too many in a row to those guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buckingham has been dismissed because of a violation of athletic department rules, not team rules, according to the Times-Dispatch's UR beat writer (and UR grad) John O'Connor.

http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/schools/university-richmond/richmond-basketball-dismisses-de-monte-buckingham-for-violation-of-athletic/article_14bf9546-7e6f-573e-8003-6b4a5af35cd5.html
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steveclark63 wrote:
Buckingham has been dismissed because of a violation of athletic department rules, not team rules, according to the Times-Dispatch's UR beat writer (and UR grad) John O'Connor.



Fleetwood Mac has team rules? Man I'd like to see them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Rodgers wrote:
steveclark63 wrote:
Buckingham has been dismissed because of a violation of athletic department rules, not team rules, according to the Times-Dispatch's UR beat writer (and UR grad) John O'Connor.



Fleetwood Mac has team rules? Man I'd like to see them.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

steveclark63 wrote:
Buckingham has been dismissed because of a violation of athletic department rules, not team rules, according to the Times-Dispatch's UR beat writer (and UR grad) John O'Connor.

http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/schools/university-richmond/richmond-basketball-dismisses-de-monte-buckingham-for-violation-of-athletic/article_14bf9546-7e6f-573e-8003-6b4a5af35cd5.html


I'm really bothered by the shoddy journalism of this article. The writer strongly implies that Buckingham was dismissed for smoking pot.
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The university’s Department of Athletics General Policies and Performance Expectations for Student-Athletes lists several potential reasons for dismissal. Those include, but are not limited to, unauthorized use of marijuana and other drugs, and commission of a criminal offense. There is no evidence on area courts websites that Buckingham was charged with a crime.

The UR policy states that “The institution may test for banned substances at its discretion and at cut off levels lower than those used by the NCAA.”



Look at that passage. He basically presents two reasons for possible dismissal: criminal offense and use of marijuana. He then tells you it wasn't a criminal offense. Then he throws in additional information about the drug policy.

But, there are more than two reasons in the UR policy that can lead to dismissal. I checked the policy on their website. Hazing and gambling, for instance, can also get you kicked out.

Either, the writer doesn't know why Buckingham was thrown out and is purely speculating, which would be irresponsible journalism. Alternatively, he knows, but can't source it, in which case it's lazy journalism. If people are telling you off the record, find someone who will tell you on the record, or on background.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In ranting about this to my wife, I realize why it bothers me so much.

For one, if it wasn't pot, its unfair to Buckingham to imply that it was.

But more broadly, what if this beat writer for the Richmond Times-Dispatch decides he's done covering Spider basketball and wants to write about something that actually matters. Maybe he moves to DC and starts covering Congress or the President. Or he moves to New York and starts covering Wall Street. We need quality journalists who don't take short cuts or make unsubstantiated implications in their writing. It is way too easy for fake news (ie it wasn't really pot) to make its way into print or for real news to be dismissed as fake news (it was pot, but because the reporting behind it was bad, those who don't want to believe it can dismiss it.) John O'Connor is no cub reporter. What if young reporters are reading him and thinking, this is how you do it?

In an age when anyone (even me) can write anything (even this) on the internet, we need the real journalists to be real journalists and have the highest standards. Unfortunately, I think, the pressure to publish and be first has dragged many actual journalists down to message board standards. I'm sure O'Connor didn't want to get scooped by the Spider message board, but we need people who believe an accurate, well sourced story is better than the first story.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrMac wrote:
Steve Rodgers wrote:
steveclark63 wrote:
Buckingham has been dismissed because of a violation of athletic department rules, not team rules, according to the Times-Dispatch's UR beat writer (and UR grad) John O'Connor.



Fleetwood Mac has team rules? Man I'd like to see them.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two additions to BDF's complaints.
The passage cited makes it sound like there is some conflict between team rules and department rules. I would think team rules have a more supplemental relationship to athletic department rules.

A more equitable way to enlighten without finger pointing would have been to include a complete listing of forbidden and required conduct in the department rules. If that list is too long for the story then don't include any for speculation.
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