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citycat
Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 8708 Location: charlotte, nc
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:58 pm Post subject: Surprising Fact/Missed Opportunity |
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Before the UNC-CH-Duke women's game, the announcer said it was the 96th time these schools have played, the first game being in '76.
Davidson played UNC-CH in February '75 in Charlotte. It is amazing we played the Tar Heels before Duke did.
Had Davidson invested a little money in women's basketball back when few schools took it seriously, we would have won more than our share of games and would have a great tradition. Instead, the program was snuffed out in '86 and the little bit of scholarship money was diverted to volleyball. |
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catnhat
Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 6397 Location: Asheboro, NC
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Weren't we DIII in women's sports until the NCAA deemed that unacceptable? |
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citycat
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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We played DIII tennis through '85, but we had scholarships in basketball through '85-'86. That's hard to reconcile with current NCAA policy, but we managed to do that.
We probably began offering those few women's hoops scholarships in the late '70s to diffuse Title IX concerns.
We tried to play DIII football post-Gatto, but the NCAA forced the DIII teams with DI basketball teams to move to FCS. That's why and when the Pioneer League began. |
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catnhat
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:09 am Post subject: |
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I don't know of any scholarship basketball players in the Class of '84. M. Frankhouser was very good ('83?), but when she graduated the team struggled as if they were all walk-ons. |
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Joneohcat83
Joined: 27 Feb 2012 Posts: 275 Location: Cooperstown, NY
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:22 am Post subject: |
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catnhat wrote: | I don't know of any scholarship basketball players in the Class of '84. M. Frankhouser was very good ('83?), but when she graduated the team struggled as if they were all walk-ons. |
Yes, Mike Frankhouser was '83 _________________ If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. It's the hard that makes it great.
1285, 4186, 2 Belk West, Watts, Knox, Little |
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ChantillyCat

Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 3969 Location: Chantilly, VA
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Mike is top 10 in career points and top 5 in career rebounds. That will still be true after Mackenzie and Justine are done.
That's impressive given how many games they played back then. _________________ ...coming out of the murky, dreary jungle of untutored mediocrity. |
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i77cat
Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 24279 Location: mooresville, nc
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Good numbers. Not one of our 20 best players. Not even close. _________________ "McKillop is a gentleman. He could have played 'name that score' if he so desired."---St Joe's fan |
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wildforthecats
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 18388 Location: Matthews NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Is the Jen O'Brien festival this Saturday the 27th? |
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ChantillyCat

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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Affirmative.
And the alumnae weekend carries over into Sunday. Alumnae game is at 10 am. _________________ ...coming out of the murky, dreary jungle of untutored mediocrity.
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wildforthecats
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 18388 Location: Matthews NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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ChantillyCat wrote: | Affirmative. |
I guess I might have to be there. |
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i77cat
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Had a nice visit with JOB on Friday. Always a pleasure. _________________ "McKillop is a gentleman. He could have played 'name that score' if he so desired."---St Joe's fan |
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citycat
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Lavetta Dawkins was a scholarship player in '85-'86. She switched to volleyball when that sport replaced basketball.
We were winless in '83-'84. We were 3-18 in '84-'85. Two of those "wins" were forfeits against Converse. The real win was against Meredith. We were 8-12, or so, in '82-'83. The schedule did not get more difficult in '83-'84. We kept the same coach from '83-'86, so she wasn't blamed for the horrible drop off.
In '85-'86, we were 10-8. Perhaps we added scholarships for that season, which would help explain the improvement. There was a long article in the Observer about Lavetta Dawkins that season. She was a freshman from Garinger High School in Charlotte.
There are posters on the board who were attending Davidson during those seasons. They should know what was going on. |
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Joneohcat83
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:20 am Post subject: |
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i77cat wrote: | Good numbers. Not one of our 20 best players. Not even close. |
Trying to backfill my understanding of our wbb history. Appreciating the thought-provoking nature of this thread. I don't mean to be obtuse, 77, but can you flesh this out a little farther? _________________ If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. It's the hard that makes it great.
1285, 4186, 2 Belk West, Watts, Knox, Little |
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Waitress
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 12021 Location: Chambana
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:46 am Post subject: |
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citycat wrote: | Lavetta Dawkins was a scholarship player in '85-'86. She switched to volleyball when that sport replaced basketball.
We were winless in '83-'84. We were 3-18 in '84-'85. Two of those "wins" were forfeits against Converse. The real win was against Meredith. We were 8-12, or so, in '82-'83. The schedule did not get more difficult in '83-'84. We kept the same coach from '83-'86, so she wasn't blamed for the horrible drop off.
In '85-'86, we were 10-8. Perhaps we added scholarships for that season, which would help explain the improvement. There was a long article in the Observer about Lavetta Dawkins that season. She was a freshman from Garinger High School in Charlotte.
There are posters on the board who were attending Davidson during those seasons. They should know what was going on. | I asked a player from that final season. “...no one on my team received an athletic scholarship. To my knowledge, none of the female athletes competing on any of our teams at that time received any athletic scholarship money.†_________________ That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did…
You deserved it.
~Tip well. |
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citycat
Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 8708 Location: charlotte, nc
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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See if you can find that article about Lavetta Dawkins.
A Davidson athletic official told me at the time when the basketball program was terminated at the end of '85-'86, the players with those scholarships were transferred to a volleyball team. Dawkins was one of them.
This transaction explains why volleyball has a small number of scholarships. Nowhere near the NCAA maximum, but more than 0.
It is possible the first women's scholarships were awarded in '85-'86. That may explain why the team improved from 1 win in '84-'85 to 10 in '85-'86.
We had questionable athletic leadership during that period. One year, we made it into the spring semester having one less women's sport than the NCAA required. When they pointed it out to us, a Women's Golf team was hastily assembled. They played one season. Another sport was added the next year. |
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