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Anybody know what UNCW’s budget is for video production & webcasting? Nice product.
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Dr. Bliss
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| Waitress wrote: | | Anybody know what UNCW’s budget is for video production & webcasting? Nice product. |
Taxpayer supported?
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Waitress wrote: | | Anybody know what UNCW’s budget is for video production & webcasting? Nice product. |
Yep that was solid |
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i77cat
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I watched some of CofC's streaming yesterday. Vastly superior to ours. So is ASU's, Furman's, WCU's, Dayton's, Fordham's (though it is pretty bad), Winthrop's, etc. We can do it, too.
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stan
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| Waitress wrote: | | Dr. Bliss wrote: | Re: the negative comments about ESPN+: to a man dying of thirst, even a thimbleful of water is something. The last couple of years I completely gave up on trying to watch the feed from the A-10 site.
For the most part, the ESPN+ feed has worked for me--not perfectly, and there were glitches in the last game. However, for the price, I'm pretty happy with it.
Plus I really enjoy being able to re-watch the games. |
Amen.
I’m not against improvements, however. |
More better is more better. So I'm in favor of more better.
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Would we rather:
1. Have better quality ESPN+ broadcasts?
2. Spend more on marketing in order to fill seats?
3. Charter a plane for the team for all away games?
4. Add to the strength/conditioning/nutrition staff?
5. Create scholarships for cheerleading?
6. Create scholarships for non-basketball sports?
7. Pay the head coach a salary that is competitive with the rest of the A10?
Would you be willing to raise tuition to do any of these?
This is not an exhaustive list of ideas for how to spend money. And I'm sure that people can also come up with a "we could afford it if we just fired so and so," or "maybe if we didn't wast so much money on XXXXXXX." And maybe we should do whatever those things are.
My point is simply that I don't believe that these are new ideas. I'm sure people have talked about them during budget time. Budgets are about priorities, and while we may like to see money spent on these things, it's easy to suggest when you aren't the one who has to cut something else to do it.
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i77cat
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All of those are good. I'm sure that the Athletic Director will make progress on all of them. I'd start with #6. When I'd made a lot of progress on #6, I'd go really strong at #6. Then I'd dig deep on #6.
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BDL
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Would you be willing to raise tuition to do any of these? |
Unequivocally no, and tuition should never be raised for the sake of athletics.
Tuition is already $50,000 (and the total cost of attendance is $67,000). We are an academic institution with sports not a sports institution with a college. |
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Waitress
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| citycat wrote: | There's a 62 year old person working in accounting/finance/bookkeeping making $230,000 a year. When he retires, hire someone at 1/2 that salary to do that job.
With the other 1/2 of that salary, hire 3 full time employees who are recent college grads. One of those can be assigned to be the full time video expert during the school year and s/he can work in marketing and other duties in the summer.
The other 2 can be coaches in non-revenue sports. |
Some comps:
UNC-CHARLOTTE $42,659 Men's Football Videographer -Athletics
UNC-WILMINGTON $33,000 Athletics Videographer -Athletics
UNC-WILMINGTON $45,000 Athletics Videographer -Athletics
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/databases/public-salaries/?appSession=681W6151IZVQ1A974FSM67YJ977E195U448O0AL41UOE8BE3ME8V4E5D0DKNTE4HS4I7LD7WQC15573C09H59G01396JTOJCT33APD3FS2PSXXZI093N60K62V1R49M0
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Dan the Tuba Man'15
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| BDF wrote: | Would we rather:
1. Have better quality ESPN+ broadcasts?
2. Spend more on marketing in order to fill seats?
3. Charter a plane for the team for all away games?
4. Add to the strength/conditioning/nutrition staff?
5. Create scholarships for cheerleading?
6. Create scholarships for non-basketball sports?
7. Pay the head coach a salary that is competitive with the rest of the A10?
Would you be willing to raise tuition to do any of these?
This is not an exhaustive list of ideas for how to spend money. And I'm sure that people can also come up with a "we could afford it if we just fired so and so," or "maybe if we didn't wast so much money on XXXXXXX." And maybe we should do whatever those things are.
My point is simply that I don't believe that these are new ideas. I'm sure people have talked about them during budget time. Budgets are about priorities, and while we may like to see money spent on these things, it's easy to suggest when you aren't the one who has to cut something else to do it. |
If you are gonna talk about scholarships for cheerleading then you need to add in the pep band as well!
I know that most of the A10 schools provide at least some sort of compensation for the pep band and we provide nothing outside of some (admittedly generous) food stipends during the tournaments.
Not sure what the pep band is like at home game this year, but I feel like every time I see a shot of it it looks pretty small. |
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stan
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There's spending and there's investment. Difference.
Spending on marketing should more than pay for itself.
As for broadcasts --are better broadcasts part of effective marketing? Not to mention, do they help recruiting?
The goal for setting spending priorities should be pretty clear -- maximize "profit". Enhance revenue -- donations, ticket sales, sponsorships, etc. Build a better basketball product. Do things that improve performance -- recruiting, coaching, training. Pack the gym. Then -- when you have done most of what you can do to produce as much extra revenue, national image, etc. you hope you've genenerated enough to start funding scholarships, etc. for the sports that don't produce any revenue.
Basketball ain't womens cross-country. The NCAA may lump them together. Pray our administration never does.
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mccabemi
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| Has anyone considered that if Bob would just recruit another Steph Curry we could solve most of these problems? |
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citycat
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If we sell 900 lower bowl season tickets at $400 apiece, that brings in $360,000. If we sell 2900 other seats at $150 apiece for a season ticket, that's $435,000. $795,000 does not pay the men's basketball team's expenses.
The only way men's basketball can earn enough to pay for itself and then contribute to scholarships for other sports is to play several games on the road versus top teams with no return game. Doing that will hurt our season ticket sales and prices.
The only way to have athletic scholarships in other sports is to raise money for endowed scholarships from alumni, parents, and fans. It won't be easy and it will take years. That's why it would have been nice to have started years ago when tuition and fees were $5,000 a year and the stock market was trading at 1000. |
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catnhat
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| Basketball is the one sport where we may get revenue from TV. We also earn revenue for our tournament appearances and other a10 teams' tournament appearances. |
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