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stevelee
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"When you come to a fork in the road, take it."
Words to live by.
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Waitress
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| MakeIt-TakeIt Cat wrote: | | Toots Shor's ... Yogi Berra met Ernest Hemingway there one night. Hemingway was introduced to Berra as a famous writer. Yogi replied: "What paper you with, Ernie?" |
Kansas City Star and the Toronto Star
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MakeIt-TakeIt Cat
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| Waitress wrote: | | MakeIt-TakeIt Cat wrote: | | Toots Shor's ... Yogi Berra met Ernest Hemingway there one night. Hemingway was introduced to Berra as a famous writer. Yogi replied: "What paper you with, Ernie?" |
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Yes, but before Yogi was born. |
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Waitress
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| Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| MakeIt-TakeIt Cat wrote: | | Waitress wrote: | | MakeIt-TakeIt Cat wrote: | | Toots Shor's ... Yogi Berra met Ernest Hemingway there one night. Hemingway was introduced to Berra as a famous writer. Yogi replied: "What paper you with, Ernie?" |
Kansas City Star and the Toronto Star |
Yes, but before Yogi was born. |
Yes.
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El_Gato_Loco
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Just to clarify, you don't think writing the poem was stupid do you? I'm hoping you posted this because the way the school treated the student is incredibly stupid.
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i77cat
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I think the poem is called Stupid and I think the school's response was stupid. And illegal.
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El_Gato_Loco
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| Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| i77cat wrote: | | I think the poem is called Stupid and I think the school's response was stupid. And illegal. |
Fair enough. I only ask because I saw this story on another blog and the commentors all seem to think this student deserved what he got and that the school acted appropriately.
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i77cat
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Really? That's weak. The school was crying about hazing and harassment because a kid read a poem in English class. Suspended him for 4 days and kicked him off the team. They'll be back-pedalling and apologizing soon.
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raptorcat
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I haven't really followed this thread as closely as I should, but since there's a smattering of courtroom-related stories, I want to relate one that happened to me last summer in my hometown courtroom. During one afternoon session, a guy came before me to enter a guilty plea to a low-level felony. He was out on bond and had been working; allegedly he'd not had time to change from his work clothes before he came to court. When the DA called out his name, he came up to the defense table to stand beside his harried, overworked public defender, who gave the guy a perfunctory handshake but barely glanced at his client.
The defendant was wearing a T-shirt that read (and forgive me for the explicit language): "Things That Make My Dick Hard," followed by a list of the things. I said, "Mr. Public Defender, have you seen your client's apparel?" He thought I was referring to the guy's shirttail hanging out, and said, "Sorry your Honor, I forgot to tell him to tuck his shirttail in before he came up to the counsel table." I said, "No, it's a bigger problem than mere slovenliness. Look at the writing on the front of his T-shirt." The P.D. craned his neck, squinted, then blanched, muttered profuse apologies to the Court, and hustled his client out of the courtroom. About thirty seconds later, the defendant reappeared, wearing his shirt wrong-side out.
The clerk, court reporter, and head bailiff all performed Google searches at the mid-afternoon break to see the list of "things". A few of them are bizarre, if you care to see the list:
http://www.spencersonline.com/product/things-make-dick-hard-med1
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Dr. Bliss
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| i77cat wrote: | | Really? That's weak. The school was crying about hazing and harassment because a kid read a poem in English class. Suspended him for 4 days and kicked him off the team. They'll be back-pedalling and apologizing soon. |
Suspension? No. But if I'm the coach, that kid is no longer on my team.
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El_Gato_Loco
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| Dr. Bliss wrote: | | i77cat wrote: | | Really? That's weak. The school was crying about hazing and harassment because a kid read a poem in English class. Suspended him for 4 days and kicked him off the team. They'll be back-pedalling and apologizing soon. |
Suspension? No. But if I'm the coach, that kid is no longer on my team. |
How did the coach find out about it? Either the school administration showed him the poem, or one of the kids teammates went and tattled... Either of those options kind of proves the kid's point.
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Dr. Bliss
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| El_Gato_Loco wrote: | | Dr. Bliss wrote: | | i77cat wrote: | | Really? That's weak. The school was crying about hazing and harassment because a kid read a poem in English class. Suspended him for 4 days and kicked him off the team. They'll be back-pedalling and apologizing soon. |
Suspension? No. But if I'm the coach, that kid is no longer on my team. |
How did the coach find out about it? Either the school administration showed him the poem, or one of the kids teammates went and tattled... Either of those options kind of proves the kid's point. |
Doesn't really matter how the coach found out. It's called "conduct detrimental to the team".
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El_Gato_Loco
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| Dr. Bliss wrote: | | El_Gato_Loco wrote: | | Dr. Bliss wrote: | | i77cat wrote: | | Really? That's weak. The school was crying about hazing and harassment because a kid read a poem in English class. Suspended him for 4 days and kicked him off the team. They'll be back-pedalling and apologizing soon. |
Suspension? No. But if I'm the coach, that kid is no longer on my team. |
How did the coach find out about it? Either the school administration showed him the poem, or one of the kids teammates went and tattled... Either of those options kind of proves the kid's point. |
Doesn't really matter how the coach found out. It's called "conduct detrimental to the team". |
Of course it matters. That is why evidence obtained illegally is not admissible in a courtroom.
If a student feels like the classroom is the place where he can be truthful and express himself, do we really want to crush that? Why would he ever care about his education again?
Perhaps the coach needs to have a conversation with him, but kicking him off the team and especially suspending him for an assignment where he expressed himself truthfully (I guess he should have lied) in what he apparently thought was a safe classroom environment is completely the wrong decision.
I guess the other side of the argument is.... FOOTBALL!!!
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