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Post by dorp » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:27 am

stan wrote:If he knew, he's toast. If he didn't know, he ought to be fired for lack of control.
Isn't that what was said about the guy in Chapel Hill?

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Post by wildforthecats » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:41 am

dorp wrote:
stan wrote:If he knew, he's toast. If he didn't know, he ought to be fired for lack of control.
Isn't that what was said about the guy in Chapel Hill?
Roy got an extension, didn't he? Crime does pay.

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Post by Dr. Bliss » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:16 am

wildforthecats wrote:
dorp wrote:
stan wrote:If he knew, he's toast. If he didn't know, he ought to be fired for lack of control.
Isn't that what was said about the guy in Chapel Hill?
Roy got an extension, didn't he? Crime does pay.
The guy who ate the 35 Viagras got an extension.
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Post by Dr. Bliss » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:38 am

Let's don't kid ourselves. We are talking about the guy who had after-hours sex with a woman who was not his wife on a table in a restaurant and later gave her $3000 "to help with health insurance" after she turned up pregnant. That guy did not get fired.
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Post by MakeIt-TakeIt Cat » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:45 pm

Pitino? Us sophisticated folks recognize this is all "just about sex". Outrageous sexual misbehavior is no longer a big deal when it involves rich and/or powerful men.

Time to move along.

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Post by Steve Rodgers » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:24 pm

Dr. Bliss wrote:Let's don't kid ourselves. We are talking about the guy who had after-hours sex with a woman who was not his wife on a table in a restaurant and later gave her $3000 "to help with health insurance" after she turned up pregnant. That guy did not get fired.

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Post by MrMac » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:58 pm

stan wrote:Pitino's rock and hard place appear to be meeting. If he knew, he's toast. If he didn't know, he ought to be fired for lack of control. That would appear to exhaust the set of potential fact patterns.


Stan. Can be a very funny man.

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Post by MrMac » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:00 pm

Steve Rodgers wrote:
Dr. Bliss wrote:Let's don't kid ourselves. We are talking about the guy who had after-hours sex with a woman who was not his wife on a table in a restaurant and later gave her $3000 "to help with health insurance" after she turned up pregnant. That guy did not get fired.
Ugghhh! I will never go out for Italian again.

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Post by dorp » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:13 am

http://www.greensboro.com/sports/unc-li ... 2c7a5.html
North Carolina coach Larry Fedora has lifted the indefinite suspension for one cornerback and will reinstate a second this weekend after the two were charged with misdemeanor assault tied to a fight near campus this month.
Hughes was charged with assault inflicting serious injury for punching the victim and breaking his nose, knocking him unconscious and causing a concussion as well as lingering health issues, according to an arrest warrant.
Stewart was charged with assault and battery for punching the victim “several times in the face,” according to an arrest warrant.

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Post by kevin mcmahon » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:53 am

Not a Tarhole defender but the coach obviously thinks the a $$ kicking was justified and the facts haven't been released.
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Post by stan » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:58 pm

kevin mcmahon wrote:Not a Tarhole defender but the coach obviously thinks the a $$ kicking was justified and the facts haven't been released.
One morning in the summer of 89, our LB coach came in the coaches meeting room praising the self-control of one of our lineman. He was 6-4, 300, one of the strongest guys on the team and would go on to play in the league for about 8 years. Had an SAT that would probably have gotten him into DC. Anyway, coach had been sleeping in one of the empty rooms in the dorm and was awakened by a loud racket. Looked outside to see this player backing his way up the steps as he protected himself with a metal trash can lid while some drunk student repeatedly tried to punch him. Turns out the player had done this all the way back from the strip.

Despite being big enough, strong enough, and tough enough to have crushed this other kid with one hand, he knew that no one ever believes that there are idiots drunk enough or stupid enough to try to prove how 'bad' they are by fighting a football player. Getting in a fight, no matter how justified by self-defense, would make him look bad in the news and hurt him in the draft. So he took the punches, found some defense, and refused to fight back while he retreated a number of blocks back to the dorm.
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Post by stan » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:11 pm

stan wrote:
kevin mcmahon wrote:Not a Tarhole defender but the coach obviously thinks the a $$ kicking was justified and the facts haven't been released.
One morning in the summer of 89, our LB coach came in the coaches meeting room praising the self-control of one of our lineman. He was 6-4, 300, one of the strongest guys on the team and would go on to play in the league for about 8 years. Had an SAT that would probably have gotten him into DC. Anyway, coach had been sleeping in one of the empty rooms in the dorm and was awakened by a loud racket. Looked outside to see this player backing his way up the steps as he protected himself with a metal trash can lid while some drunk student repeatedly tried to punch him. Turns out the player had done this all the way back from the strip.

Despite being big enough, strong enough, and tough enough to have crushed this other kid with one hand, he knew that no one ever believes that there are idiots drunk enough or stupid enough to try to prove how 'bad' they are by fighting a football player. Getting in a fight, no matter how justified by self-defense, would make him look bad in the news and hurt him in the draft. So he took the punches, found some defense, and refused to fight back while he retreated a number of blocks back to the dorm.
Later that year, we play UCLA in the Rose Bowl. They are ranked 8th and have 3 All-Americans on defense. One is a DT who plays right across from this lineman. On the PAT following our first TD, the All-American leaps high in the air to try to block the kick. Our guy delivers a short, quick shot to the belt area as he extends his arms to block. The Bruin's hands came down and he did not leap again on our other PATs or FGs.

Noticed this on the film, so a couple of us asked him about it. He shrugged. "Football is a rough game. He didn't like it. I told him -- I'm here all night."

It was a total, complete, physical ass-whipping. I thought about the drunk student from the summer and how lucky for him that our lineman had self-control. Otherwise, there would have been one fewer students enrolled that fall.
"Then they started making 3s. A lot of 3s. We're talking more 3s than a bad dating site."

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Post by kevin mcmahon » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:20 pm

stan wrote:
kevin mcmahon wrote:Not a Tarhole defender but the coach obviously thinks the a $$ kicking was justified and the facts haven't been released.
One morning in the summer of 89, our LB coach came in the coaches meeting room praising the self-control of one of our lineman. He was 6-4, 300, one of the strongest guys on the team and would go on to play in the league for about 8 years. Had an SAT that would probably have gotten him into DC. Anyway, coach had been sleeping in one of the empty rooms in the dorm and was awakened by a loud racket. Looked outside to see this player backing his way up the steps as he protected himself with a metal trash can lid while some drunk student repeatedly tried to punch him. Turns out the player had done this all the way back from the strip

Despite being big enough, strong enough, and tough enough to have crushed this other kid with one hand, he knew that no one ever believes that there are idiots drunk enough or stupid enough to try to prove how 'bad' they are by fighting a football player. Getting in a fight, no matter how justified by self-defense, would make him look bad in the news and hurt him in the draft. So he took the punches, found some defense, and refused to fight back while he retreated a number of blocks back to the dorm.
Smart kid, he handled that situation perfectly. In the UNC situation we just don't know the facts. The coach's actions are implying extenuating or mitigating factors may have be involved. It's a good bet that the UNC kids didn't handle their situation perfectly but to what level their actions were justified is impossible to know without those facts.
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Post by MadelastCut » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:24 am

Back to the legal field of combat, where I am most comfortable and certainly well informed. An enterprising stringer for the Associated Press has just disclosed that the U of L. filed lawsuits in three separate states - Small Claims Courts (reflecting damages sought, not body parts) in Ohio, New York and California: home states of defendants - seeking the repayment of "escort fees" paid for recruits who decided not to enroll at Louisville.

Commenting on these complaints, the University President stated: "we had an obligation to maintain institutional control over this portion of the Athletic Department's authorized expenditures which ENTAILED an express, but unfulfilled, quid pro quo.

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Post by i77cat » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:32 am

"Here’s what is the elephant in the room. Travis had a bag before. Now everyone has a bag. The Travis Ford recruiting prowess was greatly exaggerated."---SLU fan explaining how NIL took away Ford's recruiting edge

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