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Story in Knoxville paper this morning about WKU suspending both swim programs for 5 years. Online version not available. http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sp ... /25757251/
Sounds like the swim program became a social club version of a frat/sorority with the same kind of stupid crap that afflicts fraternities. Immature 19 and 20 year olds start hazing rituals and every year it ramps up a little worse as kids make the newbies do everything they had to do plus whatever new stuff they can think up.
And the coaches knew.
WKU swimming has had a ton of local kids, including Olympian Claire Donahue. A girl who once swam with our subdivision's summer team had signed a LOI with them in Nov.After complaints of hazing, sexual assault and drug use from a former team member prompted police and Title IX investigations into Western Kentucky University's swimming and diving teams, the school on Tuesday announced a 5-year suspension of the program.
According to a news release from WKU, Title IX Coordinator Huda Melky found evidence of violations of the student code of conduct's discrimination and harassment policy, as well as the sexual misconduct/assault policy.
School president Gary Ransdell said the program has a "culture of misconduct" that is "intolerable." He called the suspension "both necessary and prudent."
In a letter sent to WKU's faculty and staff, Ransdell added, "Specifically, the violations include hazing, underage alcohol consumption, and abuse, including engagement of [prospective] student athletes on recruiting visits to campus. Additionally, the investigations found that coaches were aware of this pervasive culture and failed to sufficiently eliminate inappropriate behavior within these teams."
Sounds like the swim program became a social club version of a frat/sorority with the same kind of stupid crap that afflicts fraternities. Immature 19 and 20 year olds start hazing rituals and every year it ramps up a little worse as kids make the newbies do everything they had to do plus whatever new stuff they can think up.
And the coaches knew.
"Then they started making 3s. A lot of 3s. We're talking more 3s than a bad dating site."
http://www.latimes.com/local/education/ ... tml#page=1
Although the Stanford allegations may have surprised some, for many others they cemented the belief that a culture of cheating pervades higher education. Harvard, Dartmouth, the Air Force Academy and other prominent institutions have recently grappled with allegations of large-scale cheating.
Nationwide, about 68% of undergraduates and 43% of graduate students admit cheating on tests or written assignments
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And cheating seems to increase as students move through school, he said.
"There is a very strong correlation to cheating in high school, cheating in college and perpetuating that in the workplace,"
"Then they started making 3s. A lot of 3s. We're talking more 3s than a bad dating site."
The article quotes an official from "The International Center for Academic Integrity", which is located at Clemson University.
Is it possible this is a cleverly disguised article from The Onion?
I had an uncle and a cousin graduate from Clemson. One of my cousin's Forestry classes required him to count the leaves on a tree. He was intimidated by the task until the teacher told him to select a representative limb, count the leaves on that limb, and then multiple by the number of limbs on the tree.
That was most of the coursework for the class.
Is it possible this is a cleverly disguised article from The Onion?
I had an uncle and a cousin graduate from Clemson. One of my cousin's Forestry classes required him to count the leaves on a tree. He was intimidated by the task until the teacher told him to select a representative limb, count the leaves on that limb, and then multiple by the number of limbs on the tree.
That was most of the coursework for the class.
Back to stan's posting about the hazing on the swim team at WKU, a similar problem surfaced at UNCW about 10 years ago. Some of the parents of the hazed swimmers complained to the AD. She took action.
The parents were not satisfied and complained to the Chancellor. The Chancellor told the AD to take further action, but the AD refused. The AD was reassigned to other duties and a lower level athletics official was made interim AD and eventually AD.
Shortly thereafter, men's basketball coach Brad Brownell received an offer from Wright State. The new AD botched UNCW's negotiations with Brownell. He left and Benny Moss, a UNCC assistant, was brought as the new coach and many losing seasons, APR issues, and Buzz Peterson followed. When Brownell left UNCW, they had been to the NCAA Tournament 3 or 4 times in 5 years and won a game in the Tournament. They have not returned to the Tournament.
The Chancellor who demoted and ran off the first AD was indifferent to intercollegiate athletics. That AD landed on her feet and now is AD at the University of Denver.
The parents were not satisfied and complained to the Chancellor. The Chancellor told the AD to take further action, but the AD refused. The AD was reassigned to other duties and a lower level athletics official was made interim AD and eventually AD.
Shortly thereafter, men's basketball coach Brad Brownell received an offer from Wright State. The new AD botched UNCW's negotiations with Brownell. He left and Benny Moss, a UNCC assistant, was brought as the new coach and many losing seasons, APR issues, and Buzz Peterson followed. When Brownell left UNCW, they had been to the NCAA Tournament 3 or 4 times in 5 years and won a game in the Tournament. They have not returned to the Tournament.
The Chancellor who demoted and ran off the first AD was indifferent to intercollegiate athletics. That AD landed on her feet and now is AD at the University of Denver.
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